What stood out to me in reading Jonsson’s original treatise was not necessarily that he was trying to refute WT, but as a loyal member he was trying to correct information he found to be incorrect and misleading. It sounded like he was genuinely concerned and felt WT could benefit from such information.
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Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday
by slimboyfat infor newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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NB I'm still trying to find the twitter feed.
What Twitter feed you looking for?
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It's a tactic- his way of having something to respond with when people start asking questions. He will try to dismiss his critics by claiming that they're defendants in a criminal suit.
It’s the same tactic he uses/used with Dijana. He tries to force either an admission of wrongdoing or an apology as a means to dismiss everything that person says. Then he paints what he did as either equal to or usually lesser than the infraction committed against him.
It’s like a point system in his twisted mind. He pulled it all the time while he was here. He would bring up what you said in a previous thread against you in another one as proof positive you are not to be listened to.
His few apologies are always conditional:
He’s sorry, but…
- He is also owed an apology
- You or someone else did something worse
- People should go to these other parties and demand apologies
- He really thinks this doesn’t merit an apology and somehow he was forced into doing it or had altruistic reasons for doing it. But he’ll apologise anyway because he’s such a caring person.
- When he apologises it wipes his slate clean and nothing relating to that can ever be brought up again because of the apology. An apology from you doesn’t wipe your slate clean, in fact it magnifies what you did and he will keep reminding everyone of your infraction against him.
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I think it was LMSA that said we should expect this, and it is now happening.
He’s trying to poison the well with his new recruits so that when they come in contact with contrary information, they will be conditioned to immediately dismiss it because it is “criminal”.
He did the same with Dijana, acting like she broke a legal agreement between the two when she backed out of the open marriage.
All intended to manipulate people into accepting his twisted version of the facts as if they are the truth.
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He’s threatening people as “criminal defendants” again.
“Eventually be served”. Important to highlight to people that THIS is what they are paying for. A sad and deluded man’s Quixotic quest to get his name cleared in the courts.
And he deserves to be kicked down and have all of this rubbed into his fat face when it fails.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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There are some really mentlaly ill people
This is what Lloyd Evans does to people.
There is a dark cloud following this man around and it envelops anyone getting near.
I believe it is too late for his wife as no one can take that kind of abuse for years and emerged unscathed. She’ll be traumatised for life.
So will his children if she lets him play any meaningful role in their lives.
She’s the only one who can protect them from this dark cloud. First she needs to recognise there is no fixing Lloyd Evans. Once she figures this out, she’ll know exactly what to do.
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****PRESS RELEASE****IMPORTANT BULLETIN****
Due to complaints received from various Cedarites on social media, the decision has been made to discontinue the www.lloydevans.info website.
These complaints include but are not limited to:
The screenshots are “fuzzy”, making them suspicious to users who view the site from a smartphone.
Not only did the tech illiterate Kim Silvio doctor the emails, but she also doctored the email header posted on this forum 20 hours ago.
Lloyd Evans really does care about his marriage.
Lloyd Evans is an attractive man, and doesn’t need to pay for sex.
Dijana Evans doesn’t deserve Lloyd Evans.
Kim Silvio is really “Marko”.
Producer Bob is not her real name assigned at birth.
The screenshots only prove that Lloyd is effective at his activism and saves lives.
Lloyd deserves every penny of his activism and the creators of the lloydevans.info website “must die”.
Kim Silvio shot JFK.
These complaints are taken very seriously by the team at www.lloydevans.info and they were perused with great interest and care.
Then… boom! We have changed the resolution on the screenshots and added Kim’s email header as further authentication.
Scrutiny - Transparency - Truth
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I love that he calls it a trainwreck simply because he didn't get his way.
The fact that she sent this email plus the WhatsApp msgs that stated that “I still love you, despite all your faults” tells me she knew exactly what would happen when she broke the news of a divorce to Lloyd and was trying to demonstrate it. It was like “see, I told you he wouldn’t quit, blame it all on me, and try to manipulate me into calling it off”.
What these emails illustrate was it just wasn’t a simple affair he had as he is explaining to his new patrons, nor did he not go to Thailand for sex. It was much more complicated than that and he was trying to fuck as many as possible. There are Cedarites trickling into Twitter now, who first were saying the emails were fake, now they are saying is they have “no journalistic value”.
I beg to differ. His admission that whatever his experience with Cara was, saying it was the highlight of the trip, is proof positive he went there for sex. And from his description of the women there, including the fact one could be described as dressed like a “hotel maid”, tells me he paid for sex like every other encounter there.
He’s lying right to their face. And he has a lot of experience in lying and trying to talk down his actions.
She's just another random person on the other side of the table, and his goal is to defeat her.
He’s doing this to the community right now. Grinding everyone down until he is accepted as the source for everything.
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The “hotel maid” pictures you referenced were taken with Cara (pronounced “Sara”) who is, at least to my knowledge, not a hotel maid.
Now this is just vintage Lloyd. With his wife informing him she wants a divorce, he just digs himself in deeper when trying to prevent it. He not only gives his new “date” a name, but also pointers on how to pronounce it! Like, thanks? So she wasn’t a maid, though she was dressed like one. Or maybe she was? Lloyd doesn’t know for sure. Huh?
Ground Control to Major Lloyd?
Tell my wife I need to pay for sex…
She knooows!
One of the rare enjoyable moments during my trip was spent with her and her friends.
I thought you were there for the scuba? Apparently your “date” Cara was the highlight of the trip! And “her friends”. Maybe this was the date package he purchased? The “We Love You Long Time” package?
Your Patron donations at work, here. Sorry, uhm, “his waaaages”.
We met for dinner, ate some street food, had some drinks, and played some pool at the bar. All the while she was flirting with me - holding my hand, touching my leg, letting me put my arm around her.
Lloyd has an interesting bedside manner in wooing back the wife who just dropped the news she wanted to divorce him. Almost like he’s trying to make his wife jealous? Or is he trying to look like a forlorn lover who has no choice but to pay women for sex?
Also, is this Cara?
Mrs Evans,
This isn’t going to disappear, despite your husband’s promises to the contrary. You have a choice to make right now.
You can protect your estranged husband’s business.
Or you can protect your children.
You can’t do both.